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The following is a special presentation
of the Not Quite Right Podcast,

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in which we discuss in detail entries to
our ****** flash fiction competition,

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the Not Quite Right Prize for Flesh
Fiction.

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This episode contains adult themes and is
not appropriate for listeners under the

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age of 18.

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And mum, if you're still listening,
that's on you.

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Something doesn't seem quite right.

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Welcome to Not Quite Right.

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My name's Ed, and I'm Amanda.

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Amanda, it's time to get *****.

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Oh,
we're here to talk about the kink and

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taboo category for the Not Quite Right
Prize for Flesh Fiction.

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Should we get out the fluffy handcuffs?

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Like, is that what's required here?

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Do we need a whip?

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Should we be dressed in leather at this
point?

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Well,
we do have some relevant items in the

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prize box.

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Could get them out.

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That's what you want.

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Uh huh.

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I'm sure our recipients won't mind if a
few of those are used.

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Oh, Oh well, I mean, that is pretty *****.

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Well,
if the packaging is a little damaged when

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it arrives at your place,
I blame it because he's been here this

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whole time.

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So, yeah, kink and taboo,
an interesting category, to say the least.

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Definitely opened my eyes.

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I was gonna say eye opening.

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Eye opening.

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Other things were opening,
opening all over the place.

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I'm really drunk.

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Kicked in at it.

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I'm not sure it's a good time.

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It's a time.

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It's always a good time with Amanda.

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I did read that on a bathroom wall one
time.

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Did you?

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Did you read it after you read it?

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I wrote it and then I read it and then I
was like, yeah,

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so in this episode we're talking about
the kink and taboo category.

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We'll be talking about the podium,
as it were,

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the 3rd place and the second place story,
and we'll be reading out the second place

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story in full,
which will be a lot of fun ones on you,

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I believe this time around.

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Amanda, once again,
and this one cuts a little close to home,

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but I promise it's not autobiographical.

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You promised you didn't actually write.

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I didn't write this one,
even though it's exactly even the story

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of your life.

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I just said it's not auto auto well.

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But why are you so defensive about it?

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Well, we'll get to that.

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So we'll be reading out the second place
story,

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but we won't be reading out the 1st place
story.

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Well, that's weird, isn't it?

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That's not a little bit weird.

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It is weird.

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But the reason we're doing it,
it's a bit ***** you might say.

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But the reason we're doing this is just
to keep everyone on the edge for a little

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bit longer,
give you a taste of some of these stories

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before we finally release the winners of
each categories on you.

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We unleash them to you unload them Emit.

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That's where you went amid.

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That's the sexiest 1, isn't it?

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I'm struggling all over your face.

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We're struggling with this introduction
today.

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It's a few wines.

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Yeah, it's really kicked in.

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We've we've come to record today with
good intentions.

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We've come today to record all of our
category specific podium episodes and

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we've recorded a few now and you know,
the alcohol is starting to seep into my

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veins and I'm enjoying it but it's coming
with consequences.

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Yeah.

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But before we get to the juicy story, Oh,
let's have a chat with Elise.

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Elise was one of our guest judges for
flesh fiction and Elise helped judge most

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of the categories.

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Yeah,
I guess she did an amazing job and she

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really helped.

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Absolutely.

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And this one in particular,
Elise opened our eyes to a lot of

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interesting again,
so much eye opening going on in this

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category.

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A lot of a lot of things that we had no
idea about through our sheltered and

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innocent suburban little lives that we
live, that we claim to live.

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Yeah.

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So thank you, Elise.

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So let's let's speak with Elise now,
and we'll come back afterwards to talk

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about our thoughts about this category.

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So welcome back, Elise.

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Thank you.

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And we're here to talk about the kink and
taboo category.

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You mentioned in now earlier discussions
that you've got a fair bit of expertise

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in this area.

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So do you want to just remind our
listeners what your background is?

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Yeah.

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So among many, many other things,
my life has been kind of an adventure so

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far.

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But I was a ********** for many,
many years, more than a decade of, like,

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active doming, not professionally,
just for fun and delight.

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So that made me really excited to read in
this category and see what people's

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interpretations of the prompt was.

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Yeah.

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And something interesting that cropped up
for me,

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and I'm interested in your thoughts,
Elise,

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is the prompt was make the unsexy
irresistible.

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Now, some people might think that kinks,
some kinks are kind of that already,

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right?

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If it's falling outside of what is maybe
the norm or what is like an average

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expectation of what is sexy,
that that's what a kink is already.

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So is that something you noticed when you
were judging as well?

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I did, yes.

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There were a number of stories where I
made a comment like, you know,

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the only thing I can find on sexy here is
this particular person's kink.

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And to me, that's a little bit troubling.

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But I also,
I feel like it's valid to hold space for

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that because if to the writer it's unsexy,
then they have kind of met the brief in

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their own way.

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As long as the story didn't treat the
kink as inherently bad or gross,

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I didn't really have a problem with that
per SE,

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although I think I probably remarked on
it every time that I noticed it.

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But I tried to stay open minded to it and
I honestly remarked on a lot of things.

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I love that you're the one who has to be
open minded in this case.

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That's great.

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So we actually said at least that for
Amanda and I,

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this was perhaps our least comfortable
category,

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the one that we most personally didn't
resonate with, I guess,

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and we had to challenge ourselves to
overcome some of those preconceptions.

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Was there anything for you that felt like
it went too far or that you had trouble

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with from a comfort level or from a
connection level in terms of subject

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matter, in terms of the pink pieces,
not so much.

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When I was doming,
there were only a couple of things that I

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didn't.

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I never involved myself in stats because
for me, I just, I couldn't get into that,

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which is, you know,
anything involving poop.

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But other than that,
the only areas that I wouldn't play in

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were areas where I didn't feel qualified
to see to the safety of whatever

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submissive or submissive I was
interacting with.

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So an example of that would be bull whips.

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I don't know if you guys know,
but when you crack a bull whip,

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the tip of the bull whip breaks the sound
barrier and that's why it makes that pop.

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You can do a lot of damage with a bull
whip if you don't know what you're doing.

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So I was not willing to touch a bull whip
and like blood play,

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like anything involving surgical or semi
surgical.

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But I don't mind reading about those
things.

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And there were certainly stories where I
was like, not my kink,

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but really well rendered.

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And in fact,
later when we talked about my favourite

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story in this category,
there was a big chunk of that in it

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actually.

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Yeah, I mean, I would agree.

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Like,
I think there were certainly stories

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where it wasn't my kink.

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And I'd say probably I'm pretty vanilla
in my taste or what have you.

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But it didn't matter.

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Like if you're reading something and it's
resonating because the characters are

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into it,
I think that and be quite powerful.

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It's not a case of you need to share the
kink to be able to appreciate the story.

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I think what authors need to work towards
is to have emotional resonance so that we

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feel empathy for the character,
what they're getting, what they want,

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and and they're happy with the outcome of
the story.

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And some stories were very effective with
that and some stories not so much.

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And that's across the spectrum,
not just in kink.

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So let's get to some call outs.

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What were some of your stand out story
theme themes and lines?

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So or stand out themes.

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One of the things that I really
appreciated was some of the stories had a

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sort of superficial exploration of cake.

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And that's not necessarily bad,
like a couple trying something fun out in

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the bedroom.

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One of my favourite stories was one of
those.

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It was called something about boots,
Biker boots.

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Yes, biker boots.

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That was it.

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Yeah.

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That was adorable.

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It was a really, really cute story.

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So no shades of stories that took that
sort of lighter approach,

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but a a lot of the stories that went
deeper into the DS dynamics,

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which is the relationship between the
dominant and the submissive and explored

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how the power exchange works between
those two parties.

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That got me really excited when I saw
that done well.

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There was a story called Wet to the Touch
that was literally about watching paint

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dry, which is pretty funny.

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Good.

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It's such a great take on the theme and
the kink in that one was orgasm denial.

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And it was really,
really good interiority in that story.

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We saw through the in the sub's eyes,
we saw the Dom like maintaining that

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dominant space,
but also like keeping track of where the

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sub was at throughout the scene.

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And then in addition,
we felt the sub's conflict inside of the

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scene of like,
loving what was happening and hating what

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was happening at the same time.

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And like being miserable and being
overjoyed about being miserable.

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And that's so real and so difficult to
capture.

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So I really,
I loved that wherever I saw it.

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Is it safe to say, Elise,
that you particularly enjoyed stories

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where the author was sensing to some of
those nuances of consent and the

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experience of the submissive person in
the dynamic as well?

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Yes, it is absolutely safe to say that.

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And the opposite is also true.

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There was at least one story where the
Dom in the situation in the story does

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not navigate the unfolding dynamic in a
way that I experienced as ethical.

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I think it was meant to be sexy,
but I was reading it thinking like,

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if a Dom doesn't have a really
sophisticated understanding in the power

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exchange, you, you know,
the sub gives away their,

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their power and they have the safe word.

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But sometimes they may not feel fully
capable of safe wording when they need to.

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And so when the Dom accepts that
responsibility,

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they also become beholden to the sub.

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They have a responsibility to make sure
that there's always a clear line to

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consent and that the Dom is certain that
they're not doing harm beyond the sort of

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superficial harm that's sought after in
that particular scene.

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And then there were some stories where I
would read the story.

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You didn't be like this.

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Dom is not giving any care to the power
exchange at all.

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And so instead of looking like ADS
dynamic,

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it looks like somebody who's grooming
someone to be a victim of abuse.

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It looks like the nascent stage of an
abusive relationship.

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And I've been in one of those.

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So those are not my favourite things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you can't help but bring your own
context to a story as well.

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And you're touching it.

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I just want to call out the authors of
the two stories that you called out.

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So Biker Boots was by Simon Clark and Wet
to the Touch was by Juliet Reece.

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So some memorable stories there.

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Just on the topic of safe words as well,
because I think that's interesting.

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Ed and I were just setting up our safe
word here.

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We've got it's more of a safe object.

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So we've got a green highlighter and a
pink highlighter,

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and the green highlighter is like,
keep talking.

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And the pink highlighter is like too far.

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So that's where we're at.

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But a safe word schema or what have you
that we saw a few times was the traffic

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light system.

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So the red, amber, orange and green.

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So is that common in the King community?

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Is this something that's sort of
popularly understood?

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Yeah, that's sort of the default.

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So you can negotiate other safe words.

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And it's,
it also bears noting that often times you

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need something that's not verbal,
like if you're gagging someone or they're

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going to be submerged,
whether there's choking or anything like

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that, you can,
you're going to need like a tap pattern.

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And if their hands are bound and they
can't do a tap pattern,

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then they need to be able to click their
tongue or so you have to,

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sometimes you have to think a little more
deeply.

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But generally,
especially with people who don't have

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00:12:00.644 --> 00:12:04.784
like a long standing relationship or
haven't spent a lot of time together

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00:12:04.784 --> 00:12:08.924
being ***** it's good to go with the
default of the red and the yellow or

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00:12:08.924 --> 00:12:13.119
amber and then the green because it's
easy to remember even when you're in

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00:12:13.119 --> 00:12:16.196
extremists,
even if you're like screaming or whatever,

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00:12:16.196 --> 00:12:19.888
you can be like yellow,
like you're reaching the edge of what I'm

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00:12:19.888 --> 00:12:20.839
comfortable with.

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So don't stop, but don't go any further.

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And it was great reading some of your
comments as well, Lisa.

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There's so many stories,
especially in this category,

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00:12:28.187 --> 00:12:31.947
where I didn't pick up on anything that
was related to like there was some

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00:12:31.947 --> 00:12:36.108
comments that you left that were talking
about the safe word patterns and they use

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00:12:36.108 --> 00:12:36.760
in the story.

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And I didn't pick up on any of that
nuance.

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00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:41.944
So very pleased to have you helping us
out in this in this category,

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00:12:41.944 --> 00:12:45.680
which we really would have struggled with,
I think, without having you there.

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I also remember a story, Ed,
that was talking about voyeurism

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00:12:49.617 --> 00:12:51.360
specifically within a community.

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00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.880
And Elise had left a comment suggesting
that this was a relatively common thing.

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00:12:54.880 --> 00:12:56.280
You're like, I never knew this was common.

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00:12:56.280 --> 00:12:57.800
I need to move into this community.

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00:12:58.680 --> 00:12:58.960
Yeah.

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Yeah.

e67df453-6c30-4b0f-a90d-0bfc70edba29-0
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I think your,
your your comment was like in ******

e67df453-6c30-4b0f-a90d-0bfc70edba29-1
00:13:01.812 --> 00:13:04.760
communities or exhibitionist communities
or something.

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00:13:04.760 --> 00:13:07.760
And, and I was just thinking,
these communities exist.

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Yeah.

5b2b74f6-6413-4a2f-aa8f-c829449d1f14-0
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I can't remember what the dissipation is,
what he's saying.

e5b7c1f6-65d9-44b6-b5c7-81360086482c-0
00:13:11.560 --> 00:13:12.720
I'm putting words in my mouth.

c93b9424-017b-4770-96d6-3a087b5a05df-0
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But yeah, I'll allow it.

69fb2c1d-a348-4a12-9d25-815c5e6ac70b-0
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You'll allow it.

7233f0c4-577a-4ef1-9c6f-105a66b9c73a-0
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OK.

40e57c80-d485-48fb-af10-69daea7d1ffe-0
00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.309
I guess I was surprised overall,
and this is across the competition,

40e57c80-d485-48fb-af10-69daea7d1ffe-1
00:13:20.309 --> 00:13:24.304
that maybe it was a little bit more
vanilla than I was expecting, like,

40e57c80-d485-48fb-af10-69daea7d1ffe-2
00:13:24.304 --> 00:13:28.800
but a lot of people share some pretty
common interests and some common turn ONS.

e9b877c4-88fa-493c-82f9-abc35623720f-0
00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:33.600
And so it was the Kinka Taboo space where
it became more niche, I suppose.

d837937c-f948-42ac-b41d-5e83a30fdee0-0
00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.535
Although even there,
there wasn't a lot that I was surprised

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00:13:36.535 --> 00:13:36.680
by.

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00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:39.944
So I guess we might think that in Kinka
Taboo,

51a74bf0-3dbf-41b0-a690-8c9cda60e0b2-1
00:13:39.944 --> 00:13:44.945
like that **** side of things is
representative of like a huge chunk of

51a74bf0-3dbf-41b0-a690-8c9cda60e0b2-2
00:13:44.945 --> 00:13:46.960
what king and taboo might be.

4ffeae8a-dbd9-43eb-9720-15f0f72a0ce3-0
00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:49.810
But of course,
we had some of these fringe kind of ideas

4ffeae8a-dbd9-43eb-9720-15f0f72a0ce3-1
00:13:49.810 --> 00:13:50.160
as well.

1603b082-e78d-4841-9ad2-6faf00d6a998-0
00:13:50.160 --> 00:13:55.028
And we probably eliminated some fringe
ideas with our rules of the competition

1603b082-e78d-4841-9ad2-6faf00d6a998-1
00:13:55.028 --> 00:13:57.000
in terms of consent and whatnot.

1819eedd-2ad5-4200-9a99-2ae51463f046-0
00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.532
But I guess I'm interested in your
thoughts, Elise,

1819eedd-2ad5-4200-9a99-2ae51463f046-1
00:14:00.532 --> 00:14:05.227
on the place of art and expression in
writing and these more fringe kind of

1819eedd-2ad5-4200-9a99-2ae51463f046-2
00:14:05.227 --> 00:14:08.439
interests and how they play off against
each other.

e4e2839f-824b-4ab6-b812-fd3fd3a6776b-0
00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.104
I think just in its own right,
exploring things that might generally be

e4e2839f-824b-4ab6-b812-fd3fd3a6776b-1
00:14:13.104 --> 00:14:15.840
considered to be on the fringe in art is
brand.

fd9dd19c-8729-4e47-bfb8-68b1d0ac24bb-0
00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:16.840
I'm a big fan of it.

483a6c6a-3597-49b4-baa8-09951bc7818c-0
00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:21.334
I like things that are subversive and I
like things that explore authentically

483a6c6a-3597-49b4-baa8-09951bc7818c-1
00:14:21.334 --> 00:14:23.951
explore or with some basic working
knowledge,

483a6c6a-3597-49b4-baa8-09951bc7818c-2
00:14:23.951 --> 00:14:28.560
explore things that tend to be kind of on
the edges of most people's experience.

f999ce05-7398-4893-a9d1-e90266877c32-0
00:14:28.560 --> 00:14:31.120
Because then when you read it,
you're broadened by that, right?

45057ee7-8abc-480b-a382-35e9a7c5833b-0
00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.629
There were, of course,
and I know you know what I'm talking

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00:14:33.629 --> 00:14:33.880
about.

8ca60af6-d510-4eb3-beb4-bdd8d08a401b-0
00:14:33.880 --> 00:14:39.805
There were sometimes that I absolutely
ranted because I felt like something

8ca60af6-d510-4eb3-beb4-bdd8d08a401b-1
00:14:39.805 --> 00:14:44.640
wasn't being addressed particularly
accurately or thoroughly.

c3db9b94-9413-4356-895c-8a5ee182cb03-0
00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.480
I remember I went off about squirting at
one point.

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00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.640
Sorry about that.

cd78c79b-0096-45b0-ab50-577f955acaf8-0
00:14:50.760 --> 00:14:53.152
No,
that's fascinating and I think very valid

cd78c79b-0096-45b0-ab50-577f955acaf8-1
00:14:53.152 --> 00:14:53.360
too.

c77400f1-fe24-4880-896c-df9939716cd2-0
00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.714
And look, we are talking about fiction,
and so that's OK, you know,

c77400f1-fe24-4880-896c-df9939716cd2-1
00:14:56.714 --> 00:14:57.800
no one's getting hurt.

6818c5b7-290e-464d-9451-f33692f4e8c3-0
00:14:57.800 --> 00:14:58.280
It's fiction.

2f8211dc-d236-4e97-bd0c-7e0dbdd5b4ec-0
00:14:58.280 --> 00:15:01.460
But at the same time,
it's very valid to be aware of the

2f8211dc-d236-4e97-bd0c-7e0dbdd5b4ec-1
00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:05.200
concerns that might be present in a real
context for these things.

a2bce47a-56c5-48a8-916e-79e22f9cc262-0
00:15:05.680 --> 00:15:09.405
And just on the subject of squirting,
we did have a good discussion with Linda

a2bce47a-56c5-48a8-916e-79e22f9cc262-1
00:15:09.405 --> 00:15:11.480
Adkins on the Long List episode about
that.

38f74c4e-862c-4816-a76e-553cbfa2003b-0
00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.501
So do you want to know more about
squirting and all of the medical details

38f74c4e-862c-4816-a76e-553cbfa2003b-1
00:15:15.501 --> 00:15:16.520
and what causes it?

9fae0584-3ef0-4cba-9bf1-843da9c0a139-0
00:15:16.640 --> 00:15:17.360
Listen to that episode.

4399e423-6517-4b7c-b601-17047e0d7ad9-0
00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:18.400
That's exciting.

3e74b4fd-bd33-437e-b9bf-376468dd902e-0
00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:21.080
Do you have anything to add?

087f2411-c3d5-43d6-a458-2da4d4bce058-0
00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.181
Elise,
do you want to share any insights or

087f2411-c3d5-43d6-a458-2da4d4bce058-1
00:15:23.181 --> 00:15:24.280
knowledge on squirting?

944fe201-c86d-46a8-9d91-c2d8c621ab06-0
00:15:24.640 --> 00:15:28.853
I too have delved fairly deeply into the,
you know, the medical,

944fe201-c86d-46a8-9d91-c2d8c621ab06-1
00:15:28.853 --> 00:15:32.160
the biological vehicle by which squirting
happens.

77abd5b8-619d-4d55-889e-dda50936dc8b-0
00:15:32.160 --> 00:15:35.760
I have quite a bit of actual experience
with squirting.

642ee2f3-4a33-4736-a5a9-f8e91f4a71ba-0
00:15:35.800 --> 00:15:39.381
I have taught someone how to squirt who
wanted to like really badly wanted to be

642ee2f3-4a33-4736-a5a9-f8e91f4a71ba-1
00:15:39.381 --> 00:15:40.000
able to do it.

d28753fa-426a-40de-bb27-8bfc582ac7ae-0
00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.440
So is this something you can learn as a
skill?

c08f7e0c-9091-44e0-b32a-83a9ba202d13-0
00:15:42.920 --> 00:15:49.160
Is this something we can learn on a
podcast or probably not?

7ec5eeb7-cf18-4b16-9977-e947d781d2f3-0
00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:50.440
Yeah, but yeah.

f95c78d5-09af-4bf6-8502-a2bf3bdb8faf-0
00:15:50.560 --> 00:15:50.720
So.

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00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:54.387
But before we go,
I want to hear a little bit, Elise,

a4b3f243-1376-41b0-8aca-6b8309925819-1
00:15:54.387 --> 00:15:55.320
about your book.

66d920f7-d0e9-4af8-bf96-87113abedf0a-0
00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.616
And you mentioned it on the previous
episode,

66d920f7-d0e9-4af8-bf96-87113abedf0a-1
00:15:57.616 --> 00:16:01.560
but give us a little insight into what
you've written and when it's coming out

66d920f7-d0e9-4af8-bf96-87113abedf0a-2
00:16:01.560 --> 00:16:01.960
as well.

3afafe8e-776b-43f6-82f0-b2294ed16674-0
00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:05.000
So my book is called the Black Cat
detectives.

25116ad9-58ed-4074-940b-b1be49e9d6db-0
00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.040
It is the absolute opposite of the kink
and heavy category.

b7c57e36-9b9a-4938-b1ed-07c249aabb39-0
00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:14.413
It is a cosy murder mystery about 3
kittens who have to save their human

b7c57e36-9b9a-4938-b1ed-07c249aabb39-1
00:16:14.413 --> 00:16:19.932
rescuer by solving a murder she's accused
of committing so that they can prevent

b7c57e36-9b9a-4938-b1ed-07c249aabb39-2
00:16:19.932 --> 00:16:23.680
her from being locked away in the human
pound forever.

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00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.520
So it's meant to be cute and joyful.

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00:16:26.520 --> 00:16:29.440
And it is coming out on May 26th of this
year.

44c668d7-c86a-496e-ab5f-670c59b6f0ac-0
00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.220
And I, I think I forgot to say before,
if you pre order,

44c668d7-c86a-496e-ab5f-670c59b6f0ac-1
00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.840
there's an email address,
you can find it on my website.

95992ed4-6575-41ab-a369-e4b7666740a0-0
00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:39.514
And if you email me and send me a receipt,
I will send you a envelope with like

95992ed4-6575-41ab-a369-e4b7666740a0-1
00:16:39.514 --> 00:16:43.280
stickers and bookmarks and my personal
playlist from writing it.

946c0fa4-dee6-4c7f-9f1f-39decf46485a-0
00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:47.912
And I will absolutely send it anywhere in
the world that US post can be sent to

946c0fa4-dee6-4c7f-9f1f-39decf46485a-1
00:16:47.912 --> 00:16:51.560
because I bought a packet of the
international forever stamps.

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00:16:52.040 --> 00:16:53.160
Oh, that's lovely.

8f13a176-4a72-41cf-90ed-9fa2a9b87b9e-0
00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.630
So if people are interested,
we'll put a link in the show notes for

8f13a176-4a72-41cf-90ed-9fa2a9b87b9e-1
00:16:56.630 --> 00:16:57.240
this episode.

01a9959c-aed5-4371-a88e-6293ad1cfa2c-0
00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.760
If they're keen to get that package,
that's cool.

8c1b7e3c-6ca7-4fe3-a6d7-5ea3bfb60d50-0
00:17:00.760 --> 00:17:03.912
I think, you know,
sometimes people need a little break from

8c1b7e3c-6ca7-4fe3-a6d7-5ea3bfb60d50-1
00:17:03.912 --> 00:17:06.600
the stuff that's like,
heavy and hard in the world.

1d770b5b-1b76-4f26-8c21-8475a915caa1-0
00:17:06.600 --> 00:17:10.297
And it sounds like this story is lighter
and a bit of fun,

1d770b5b-1b76-4f26-8c21-8475a915caa1-1
00:17:10.297 --> 00:17:12.240
which I think we could all use.

2c662a4f-2b3a-4fda-8944-f8edf03b6f82-0
00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:13.560
So that's really cool.

cd682384-8cf2-43b0-955e-c4edf08003fd-0
00:17:13.560 --> 00:17:17.200
And so you've written this story under
the name Kit Grey.

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00:17:17.280 --> 00:17:17.440
Yeah.

aa01a173-e519-438e-88b5-5d6d60485f20-0
00:17:17.600 --> 00:17:20.160
So it's Kit Grey the Black Cat Detective.

1d60d89a-798a-4b9c-9353-c5a453697d65-0
00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:24.640
So for those who are interested in a bit
of cosy mystery, look it up.

53248a3d-6b4c-40dc-bc41-0767854fac09-0
00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:29.607
But we'd like to also share a copy of
that book with your top pick or this

53248a3d-6b4c-40dc-bc41-0767854fac09-1
00:17:29.607 --> 00:17:30.800
category at least.

00fabc77-8932-42c6-a04a-b33ba372c73d-0
00:17:30.800 --> 00:17:32.360
So who's your top pick?

582e4e5a-3b1e-4767-aaaf-781254b737a2-0
00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.553
So my top pick in the kink and taboo
category is sometimes a Dom has to get

582e4e5a-3b1e-4767-aaaf-781254b737a2-1
00:17:37.553 --> 00:17:40.591
dirty,
which definitely has one of those areas

582e4e5a-3b1e-4767-aaaf-781254b737a2-2
00:17:40.591 --> 00:17:45.439
of kink that maybe was a little
uncomfortable to read for a lot of people.

d2190193-d4e5-4628-a0bd-20ae461894bf-0
00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:49.567
Because this is the one where I don't
know if you remember where the sub really

d2190193-d4e5-4628-a0bd-20ae461894bf-1
00:17:49.567 --> 00:17:52.560
wants to be immersed in a bathtub full of
foetid garbage.

50135f6d-11f4-45d3-be3c-e5ae4e5c0720-0
00:17:52.560 --> 00:17:53.680
No, I remember that one.

f879269a-66d0-4670-8140-2f89ec55766e-0
00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:54.280
Yeah.

4e00f582-6874-4e35-9c66-32d0f242b1c1-0
00:17:54.280 --> 00:18:00.219
And so the unsexy elements here was not
the sub's desire to have this experience,

4e00f582-6874-4e35-9c66-32d0f242b1c1-1
00:18:00.219 --> 00:18:05.000
but rather the fact that for the Dom,
it was actively a turn off.

231d2e0f-f173-4663-acc5-be3b9aca4326-0
00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:08.694
And yet the Dom wanted to provide this
experience for her sub,

231d2e0f-f173-4663-acc5-be3b9aca4326-1
00:18:08.694 --> 00:18:12.000
and so she pushed past her discomfort and
did it anyway.

55b03b9d-fc22-4b38-b1e9-7a36b13973e8-0
00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.976
And so that story,
sometimes a Dom has to get dirty,

55b03b9d-fc22-4b38-b1e9-7a36b13973e8-1
00:18:15.976 --> 00:18:17.200
is by Grace Kwan.

75a401af-d12c-466d-8049-caaaf74d76ab-0
00:18:17.280 --> 00:18:20.185
And Grace has actually left us a message
about her story,

75a401af-d12c-466d-8049-caaaf74d76ab-1
00:18:20.185 --> 00:18:22.240
telling us about the origin of the story.

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00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:23.400
So we'll play that as well.

c307e32d-0007-4298-82d4-c38e42460607-0
00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:24.520
I love that.

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00:18:28.280 --> 00:18:31.301
Hi, it's Grace from Canada,
Sam James who wrote your third place July

5bbaec70-1c47-469f-9c23-577fea2b7ff7-1
00:18:31.301 --> 00:18:31.560
story.

745c7cd9-02ff-40dc-9aaa-aedda02247d1-0
00:18:31.560 --> 00:18:33.640
Bin Boy and I are in a writing group
together.

65733c2e-c7d4-4349-9588-e917e0871131-0
00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.645
I joked a story about a dirty little bin
boy could be easily reworked into an

65733c2e-c7d4-4349-9588-e917e0871131-1
00:18:37.645 --> 00:18:41.072
entry for Flesh, which is when Kuru,
our group's chief cheerleader and

65733c2e-c7d4-4349-9588-e917e0871131-2
00:18:41.072 --> 00:18:43.920
occasional instigator,
jumped in and dared me to write it.

2c79b415-ad17-4bc5-acd8-0a60bf79d55f-0
00:18:44.280 --> 00:18:47.120
And that's how sometimes a Dom has to get
dirty was born.

95b14993-e113-428d-8a4e-282af78a8e56-0
00:18:47.520 --> 00:18:50.631
And as Elio J is also in the group,
there's an uncredited appearance too,

95b14993-e113-428d-8a4e-282af78a8e56-1
00:18:50.631 --> 00:18:51.640
of a certain pink mould.

4136c2bf-b0c7-4588-889f-bb58f47f49f6-0
00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.337
Thanks UDLW Gang,
and thanks Ed and Amanda for the Super

4136c2bf-b0c7-4588-889f-bb58f47f49f6-1
00:18:55.337 --> 00:18:56.040
fun contest.

74a2ce4d-c17c-4436-9c66-93730846fa26-0
00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.680
Sorry, Sam, I love that.

f3f61732-5fc8-4a92-bbbe-550e1dbf1d73-0
00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.880
And it was such a sweet bin boy was such
a sweet story.

9df79e2f-bdfa-4861-b316-91e9f0b8d589-0
00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:02.800
Very romantic.

2e5cd774-2989-49ad-80b9-663e19cd5187-0
00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.424
All right, well, thank you, Elise,
for sharing your thoughts and we look

2e5cd774-2989-49ad-80b9-663e19cd5187-1
00:19:07.424 --> 00:19:12.040
forward to talking with you again when we
cover the literary erotica category.

cbc98605-5cb5-4e70-9b63-a67e011cf433-0
00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:12.760
Sounds great.

c17010d5-9b69-40a3-9ca5-82aa6620d41c-0
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:13.720
Thank you so much.

db79a5d4-8b3e-4028-a509-1ee377d19b7e-0
00:19:15.520 --> 00:19:16.600
And now Kinkin taboo.

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00:19:16.600 --> 00:19:16.840
Hmm.

d2326966-b8c8-46c8-aeeb-972570cd6fdc-0
00:19:17.360 --> 00:19:19.567
We mentioned in our conversation with
Elise,

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like it was a bit of a struggle for us.

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There are lots of new concepts and
confronting themes.

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I guess for us.

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I mean,
nothing super surprising to be honest,

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for me.

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Like it's not like I was, you know, ohh,
clutching my pearls or anything like that.

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It was just difficult, I think,
for me to connect with this idea of

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wanting to be degraded.

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I think is is the thing that I struggled
to connect with.

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So not so much like, oh, OK,
there's whips and chains and,

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and all sorts of stuff like that.

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Even some darker,
darker stuff like being murdered and

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eaten, being punished,
like in deeply disturbing ways.

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That to me just did not surprise me.

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And I'm not someone who's read or watched
50 Shades of Grey that made ****

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mainstream, I guess.

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And it's just not for me.

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Yeah,
which is interesting because I think we

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talked about previously how we found it
maybe not difficult to connect with, say,

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a ********** story when that's not my
experience.

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I didn't find that difficult to connect
with,

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but I found this more difficult to
connect with, which is interesting.

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Yeah.

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And you mentioned like whips and chains
and stuff.

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And that's that's the kind of thing that
you think about when you think about pink

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and the media said when you're not in
that world.

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And I guess what I found was that we
didn't get a whole lot of that.

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It wasn't that surface level.

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Well,
it's just a relationship and it and

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there's whips and chains involved.

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It really wasn't about that.

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It was much more about,
I guess that power differential for a lot

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of the the cases, not all of them.

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There are other aspects of kink and taboo
that were represented here,

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but a lot of the ones that I struggled
with were based around this idea of the

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power differential.

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Yeah, I found that confronting.

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And I know for me personally is not
something that I'm into, Like,

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I view relationships as very much like an
equal thing into like a partnership kind

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of thing.

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And, you know,
I understand this is a different yeah

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thing, but that's for me,
I found that quite different from what

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I'm normally used to.

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And this is not a problem from the
perspective of judging this competition.

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Yeah.

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We try to keep an open mind.

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Yeah.

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About what's being portrayed.

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How effectively does portray that?

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Does it tick all the right boxes in terms
of consent and, like,

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hotness and that kind of thing?

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But a lot of the time for me,
I'm judging them more in the abstract on

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those merits rather than does this
personally do it for me?

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Yeah.

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And I mean,
I think that was the case across the

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stories.

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And I want to be very clear that this
isn't a case of, like, kink shaming or no,

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you know,
it's not that I judged any of these

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specific kinks as if they were wrong or
anything like that.

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This is not what I'm saying.

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I mean, I'm open to all of that.

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And certainly in this competition was
open to reading all of that.

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I guess to me it was just interesting how
difficult I found it to connect with

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these relationships.

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And look, it's no surprise, right?

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You know,
I don't like being told what to do.

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Although maybe I should relate to the Dom
in this situation.

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It's not appealing to me to be in that
very different power dynamic in a sexual

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relationship.

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However,
like it was still very much possible to

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tell a very,
very sexy story in in that way.

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And I think much like stories in any
category,

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it became about understanding the
individual character's desire for that

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relationship.

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And if that was really strong,
that became easier to connect with rather

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than maybe assuming that the reader is on
board automatically,

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that they need to understand this
character, what they want,

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what is appealing to them,
and what's going to bring them what they

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need.

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But I think maybe a challenge in this
category,

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and it's probably across other categories
as well.

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That's something that just comes to mind
now is conflict, right?

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So in storytelling,
we're big fans of conflict, conflict.

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We want escalating conflict throughout a
story that's the middle of the story.

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And in this case,
we're offering 1500 words instead of in

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the not quite right prize for flash
fiction.

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It's 500.

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There is a lot of time there to build and
develop conflict and to have like sort of

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one thing escalate into another and
another.

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And many, many stories,
even in the kink and taboo category where

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you might feel like there's kind of an
inherent conflict did not deliver story

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conflict.

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So everybody was on board from the word
go.

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I think it's,
it's meaningful to think about in

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storytelling terms,
this push and pull of like a goal that we

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have a scene goal or a story goal.

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And then what is getting in the way of
that?

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And if nothing is getting in the way of
that,

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if it's just two characters have entered
into a consensual kind of situation,

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and even if it's kind of ***** they're
just playing off each other,

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and then it builds to the end.

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Yeah.

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That can be not as satisfying as
something where we're trying to overcome

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obstacles,
potentially relationship obstacles or

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00:23:53.619 --> 00:23:58.237
obstacles of understanding each other to
arrive at a place where everybody's on

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00:23:58.237 --> 00:23:59.680
board with the same goal.

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And we did speak about this at length,
I think, in the longest episode.

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But conflict doesn't necessarily mean the
two characters are in conflict.

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Yeah.

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It's not an argument necessarily.

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Yeah, it's an obstacle.

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So look, I agree with that.

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And I think listen back to the longest in
this episode,

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we'll talk a little bit more about these
ideas, but let's get to the stories.

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00:24:17.560 --> 00:24:21.160
We'll be revealing the names of our third
and 2nd place Sketters.

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00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.686
And we'll be reading out the second place
Sketter for this round,

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00:24:24.686 --> 00:24:25.840
which is really exciting.

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00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:26.760
It's a great story.

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00:24:26.760 --> 00:24:27.960
I'm nervous again.

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00:24:28.600 --> 00:24:30.280
God,
I feel like I'm not doing them justice,

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00:24:30.280 --> 00:24:31.400
but they're doing a great job.

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00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:34.960
This one is I'm going to have to just
throw my whole self into I feel.

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00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:35.600
Please do.

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OK,
so our third place getter for this

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00:24:38.840 --> 00:24:44.920
category and all categories will be
winning a copy of a novel by Nikki Sex.

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00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:50.328
Nikki is an ****** fiction author who
specialises in kink and taboo kind of

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00:24:50.328 --> 00:24:53.432
story,
so there's some interesting ones there

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00:24:53.432 --> 00:24:55.120
for lovers of this genre.

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00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:55.400
Yeah.

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00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.539
So I guess if you've done the 50 Shades
of Grey thing and looking for something

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00:24:59.539 --> 00:25:01.040
different, look up Nikki Sex.

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00:25:01.280 --> 00:25:04.040
Yeah,
look her up on Amazon or click the link

ff3a84f0-1e94-4e5e-9371-68e4dbaad9ca-1
00:25:04.040 --> 00:25:08.960
in the show notes to find out more about
her and the person who will be receiving

ff3a84f0-1e94-4e5e-9371-68e4dbaad9ca-2
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.600
that novel for the kink and taboo
category.

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00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:21.406
And the person in 3rd place is Who says
attending your mum's work party has to be

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00:25:21.406 --> 00:25:22.240
boring.

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By Jordan Dove.

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No.

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And it certainly wasn't boring.

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Oh, it was not boring.

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This is a story that, to me,
pushed so many boundaries and so many

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limits.

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Yeah.

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That it deserved a spot on the podium.

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I think it had one of the most
discombobulating lines of the entire

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competition.

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A line that you read and you're like,
your brain just implodes on itself,

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I feel.

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Yeah.

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And that line was.

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I feel Mum's hand firm against the back
of my neck, pushing me down.

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I sink to my knees as she pulls out her
hardening ****.

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And this is a story with so many twists
and turns and things are not what they

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seem.

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But like at its core,
it is just a hot sex scene at a work

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party.

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And I think that's something we can all
aspire to, we can all get on board with.

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I think it's what they call fo sest.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So like, it's a specific genre of kink,
I guess, that is not incest.

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It's kind of like borderline.

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And when we're pretending.

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And that's what this story was all about.

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And, you know, like,
that idea on the surface grosses me out

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big time.

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But in this particular story,
it's really hot.

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Like, it's it, you know,
it's brought in in a way that just feels

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fun and crazy and not,
not problematic in a way that would

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distress me, I suppose.

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Not that that matters, but yeah, Super,
super spicy.

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Quite funny as well.

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This story.

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Shocking.

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Yeah.

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And memorable.

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Definitely memorable.

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So well done, Jordan Dove with your story.

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Well,
now we're not going to read your story

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out on this episode,
but I feel like this is one that we might,

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Oh yeah.

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Consider for a future little Patreon
bonus.

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Absolutely.

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And it's certainly one that we will have
to feature in our collection.

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Yeah, as well.

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OK.

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But now let's move to the moment we've
all been waiting for,

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which is the read of the second place
story.

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So the second place story will win a
bottle of wine,

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which will all of our second place
getters.

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And that comes to us from Naked Wines,
who are sponsoring Flesh Fiction.

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And Naked Wines offer a range of select
wines.

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So if you are a drinker,
as Elander and I are,

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please do check them out.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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They deliver it straight to your house.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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They delivered it straight to to my house.

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And you saved some for me, which was nice.

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It wasn't all gone by the time we got
here.

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That's right,
but for the kink and taboo one,

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we've selected a toy that is very
appropriate and that is a tentacle drool

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gag.

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So do with that what you will.

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And so the tentacle drool gag comes
courtesy of Odyssey Toys,

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who donated a range of spicy prizes for
our competition.

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And a huge thanks to all of our sponsors
because this would have been way less fun

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if we didn't have all of these prizes to
dish out.

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So thank you so much and we do hope
you'll support them.

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So in second place and the recipient of
both of those lovely prizes,

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is a story I'm really looking forward to
you reading.

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Oh, dear.

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I'm uncomfortable already.

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And in fact,
this story features my brother's name,

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and I feel like I need to editorialise
and just change that.

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Am I OK to just change that one name just
to get through it?

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Just to get through it?

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This is that faux SEC.

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No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Just pretend it's a different person.

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OK.

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I mean,
I do know other people with that name.

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OK, Good.

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All right.

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I'll imagine the other.

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Wait.

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No, that's no better.

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I mean, it's better anyway.

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Clearly I'm uncomfortable already.

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This is a very triggering story for me,
but I'm looking forward to it.

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But it's hot.

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It's pretty hot.

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We hope you'll enjoy.

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So without further ado,
our second place story for the Kink and

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Taboo category for the Not Quite right
Prize for Flesh Fiction is Planning Day

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Gameplay by Juicy Fruit.

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It was a single player game I like to
call what would this person look like

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going down on me Angus from IT sitting to
my left was the first Angus darling.

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Angus would have a plan for ***** licking.

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He would have thought through how he
would hold me,

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how he would press his tongue and push
his fingers.

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His serious face would eventually rise in
victory,

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my soft inner thighs tingling from his
stubble, my fingers in his hair,

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aftershocks from a perfectly serviceable
orgasm rippling through me to Angus's

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left cold shower.

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Ryan from corporate,
currently taking neat notes in his

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notebook,
would have read about how to undertake

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*********** and would be happy to
demonstrate I know exactly what to do,

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thank you very much.

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Although the book said nothing about that
spot or the mess.

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And have you come yet?

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You should have come already.

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That's what the instructions said.

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And to my right, zoo,
zoo in sales with his thing for any woman

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who walked with confidence.

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You could hear it in his voice,
the way he straightened,

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watched with adoring eyes.

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He would worship between my thighs,
willing to lead,

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willing to follow however he could serve
his goddess.

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TBH he levelled up in the game a while
ago.

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I've been picturing him ******* me over
his desk while everyone else is at

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monthly tea, morning tea,
lamingtons and good loving, am I right?

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It was a pretty good game until it got
out of hand.

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It started on slide 7.

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The facilitator dropped into my usual
starting point.

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Sunday morning sunshine bed with tangled
piles of dooni and her taking a break

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from eating me out,
eyes peering up my belly,

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fingers still stroking just enough to
make me moan but not enough to make me

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pant.

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By slide 11,
her face was back below eye level and I

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decided to make her a permanent fixture.

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By slide 13, it had escalated.

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Instead of lying on my bed,
I was lying on the meeting table.

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Instead of watching the presentation,
Angus,

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00:31:59.691 --> 00:32:06.589
Ryan and Zoo were watching me with
varying degrees of interest, disgust,

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00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:07.440
and lust.

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00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:14.524
Instead of standing by the whiteboard
with marker in hand,

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00:32:14.524 --> 00:32:22.494
the facilitator stood between my legs,
marking red ink against the soft flesh of

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00:32:22.494 --> 00:32:29.480
my inner thigh as she pushed me open,
further, open, further, further.

f2ba3a20-8cd9-4fee-b4d5-219e66e407af-0
00:32:33.520 --> 00:32:34.920
I choked on nothing.

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00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:36.560
You OK?

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00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.977
Asked the facilitator,
pausing mid sentence,

c9a9c250-6aed-4d00-a31a-4dc0d78576ed-1
00:32:39.977 --> 00:32:41.520
finger on her keyboard.

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00:32:42.280 --> 00:32:46.347
She was still fully dressed and I
couldn't remember her name,

1726b660-e4a5-4787-b0f0-b14a694fa661-1
00:32:46.347 --> 00:32:51.530
which was upsetting because something
heavy and needy inside me wanted to moan

1726b660-e4a5-4787-b0f0-b14a694fa661-2
00:32:51.530 --> 00:32:53.040
it into her warm mouth.

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00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:55.600
I'm fine.

860a7a21-693e-4626-b7c6-8574937898aa-0
00:32:56.320 --> 00:33:00.999
I managed to croak,
although in my imagination I could feel

860a7a21-693e-4626-b7c6-8574937898aa-1
00:33:00.999 --> 00:33:04.899
the table behind my back and my dress
bunched up,

860a7a21-693e-4626-b7c6-8574937898aa-2
00:33:04.899 --> 00:33:10.982
a chestnut hair falling into the crease
between my stomach and my left thigh,

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00:33:10.982 --> 00:33:14.960
and her nose pressing into me, inhaling,
exhaling.

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00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:17.920
**** I tried to think.

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00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.752
Instead of cold shower, Ryan,
the facilitator moved on to slide 14,

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00:33:23.752 --> 00:33:28.726
toying with the red marker,
turning it around and around,

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00:33:28.726 --> 00:33:35.759
massaging the lid like she was going to
ease it slowly apart like I wanted her to

1125214b-de4b-4b24-8802-4bc97072678f-3
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:36.960
do to my body.

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00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:45.080
Ease me slowly apart so the longing could
leak out.

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00:33:46.080 --> 00:33:51.640
Lingeringly slow,
leaking and lingering like a cloud of

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00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.520
breath hanging in winter air.

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00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:02.254
Her thumbnail continued circling the join
between the lid and the barrel,

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00:34:02.254 --> 00:34:08.628
flicking in and out, in and out,
her knowing lips taking projections as I

48cddcf8-3d33-4476-b450-f3e1c5ec5613-2
00:34:08.628 --> 00:34:15.520
strained to keep my own projections under
control because they were firming up.

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00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:17.160
Yes, firm.

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00:34:17.160 --> 00:34:19.000
So ******* firm.

516dd502-a14e-4d01-bb35-ab657a6e491e-0
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.254
I should have been mortified,
except I was too wound up in the creeping

516dd502-a14e-4d01-bb35-ab657a6e491e-1
00:34:23.254 --> 00:34:24.200
longing to care.

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00:34:27.160 --> 00:34:27.880
Silence.

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00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.560
More silence.

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00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.421
I didn't hear the question,
and her thumb read from where she

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00:34:38.421 --> 00:34:42.320
corrected a mistake on slide 5,
scratched lightly at the leaders.

31860d7d-0931-4e8a-9def-ebb7e404351f-0
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.440
She waited for me.

0f11f1a6-8ca3-4600-98a8-f21dde09cdc5-0
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.280
The ridged hush was like a promise.

20cb4408-e87b-47fb-9a52-0b88dd684365-0
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.920
She flicked the join again.

e4dc87b9-a816-4cde-b756-fa826abc37cf-0
00:34:54.040 --> 00:34:56.120
Oh God, I caught my breath.

ea789874-bc4c-4e14-a683-ae9aef172240-0
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.440
Maybe we can schedule that into Q2?

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00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.980
Ash said,
Zoo smirking as he reminded me of her

6b76ac35-30d8-4d3f-95e8-e35479a2411b-1
00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:07.120
name and broke the stand off.

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00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.160
Like he knew what was going on in my head
and he 100% approved.

a4121a88-f992-41dc-b959-9fad8b20f671-0
00:35:14.600 --> 00:35:21.101
I needed to get out of the warm room that
smelled of Cologne and whiteboard markers

a4121a88-f992-41dc-b959-9fad8b20f671-1
00:35:21.101 --> 00:35:25.590
and something spicy that I hoped was her
scent schooling,

a4121a88-f992-41dc-b959-9fad8b20f671-2
00:35:25.590 --> 00:35:31.240
where her prim thighs were bound tight by
her skirt but was probably me.

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00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.685
Me,
my body being moist and warm and

4370aa55-b748-4381-ba5f-073c43258e91-1
00:35:36.685 --> 00:35:39.520
telegraphing I was in heat.

7703ddff-c8f7-4151-849a-912b6741a155-0
00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:42.120
Such heat.

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00:35:44.040 --> 00:35:49.423
Zoo used his deep knowing,
boundary pushing voice to suggest we take

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00:35:49.423 --> 00:35:50.360
a bio break.

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00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.520
Yes.

9fd0c19f-a291-4a10-9cfd-bdde7318e386-0
00:35:52.520 --> 00:35:55.120
Moaned out of me before I could stop it.

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00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.760
Ash raised a perfect eyebrow, flicked lid.

bb29f4d8-fb86-4959-bdd8-db6e03141984-0
00:36:02.560 --> 00:36:05.640
Flick, flick.

ed299f2e-10d7-4aee-89d2-0b516e4cc0df-0
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.800
I licked my lips, held her gaze.

cf01dc5e-63b5-4652-944f-12bff670c943-0
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:15.480
I got to breathe.

d9898717-2064-48cd-b6ae-273298375d6d-0
00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:20.480
Ash finally let her chastising eyebrow
drop.

450e5e99-9fec-4a38-b907-6b4e0c0be6e7-0
00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:24.600
I let the marker fall to the table with a
plastic clatter.

b9b9b498-e5ed-49e3-a6ae-2df6c2e6641e-0
00:36:26.200 --> 00:36:29.640
I bet it was warm like her skin.

d5402fea-d0f1-4484-8c26-0e54fd22da4b-0
00:36:31.120 --> 00:36:32.520
I bet it smelled like her.

ae5fb16b-1150-4d49-94a0-fc9d8a800b08-0
00:36:34.600 --> 00:36:37.000
I bet it tasted like her.

d5815f50-336d-42e3-ad6d-c2e6aa4bceb8-0
00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:47.120
The inside of my mouth tingled in
anticipation of a taste, a meal, eating.

fe572ede-d5ba-4ca0-ba8b-608c53163051-0
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:50.640
10 minutes.

209042cc-833e-48d9-bf83-ffd9b005cfd5-0
00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:56.698
She said be back here in 10 minutes and I
was running for the bathroom before the

209042cc-833e-48d9-bf83-ffd9b005cfd5-1
00:36:56.698 --> 00:36:58.320
others could even stand.

ee4d17e5-494b-4515-bee2-70c352d2e00c-0
00:37:00.640 --> 00:37:05.391
I don't even lock the cubicle door,
just leant against the grey Laminex,

ee4d17e5-494b-4515-bee2-70c352d2e00c-1
00:37:05.391 --> 00:37:10.339
the heart cool underneath my back like
I'd imagined the boardroom table and

ee4d17e5-494b-4515-bee2-70c352d2e00c-2
00:37:10.339 --> 00:37:15.026
balanced 1 foot on the toilet lid dress
pulled up enough to get my hand

ee4d17e5-494b-4515-bee2-70c352d2e00c-3
00:37:15.026 --> 00:37:17.760
underneath and into my saturated knickers.

3294ee94-1c40-4c37-864b-6691d5bec577-0
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:24.323
The other hand curved inside my bra,
catching on a firm projection and sending

3294ee94-1c40-4c37-864b-6691d5bec577-1
00:37:24.323 --> 00:37:26.320
a shudder right through me.

36ba742e-b2d5-4f00-b1a3-c4d08fde6614-0
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:35.936
I closed my eyes and Ash's imaginary
fingers explored my folds,

36ba742e-b2d5-4f00-b1a3-c4d08fde6614-1
00:37:35.936 --> 00:37:44.603
sliding across my most sensitive spots,
dipping in deep and curling hard,

36ba742e-b2d5-4f00-b1a3-c4d08fde6614-2
00:37:44.603 --> 00:37:48.000
beckoning to make me whimper.

c8699ecb-e407-4af8-8b35-cd4492974f08-0
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:58.001
I moaned as softly as I could,
and then her shoes sounded like authority

c8699ecb-e407-4af8-8b35-cd4492974f08-1
00:37:58.001 --> 00:38:05.308
and her perfume like intoxication,
and she stopped by my cubicle,

c8699ecb-e407-4af8-8b35-cd4492974f08-2
00:38:05.308 --> 00:38:12.062
knocked the sound,
the slight bounce of the door reverberate

c8699ecb-e407-4af8-8b35-cd4492974f08-3
00:38:12.062 --> 00:38:13.279
through me.

4c44d1b3-a507-4759-a78e-ffc4651a58b5-0
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.181
You didn't wait,
I **** frozen with my dress up around my

4c44d1b3-a507-4759-a78e-ffc4651a58b5-1
00:38:21.181 --> 00:38:24.720
waist and wrist deep in my knickers.

788b704b-4ea5-43b0-9652-2e1664fe05f7-0
00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:30.000
Her voice cut through to something primal
deep in my core.

3870d1fd-7c4a-45d3-ac5d-f457e0efc166-0
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:38.263
There were no words and my mouth just
hung stupidly open,

3870d1fd-7c4a-45d3-ac5d-f457e0efc166-1
00:38:38.263 --> 00:38:46.120
like it was waiting for something to eat
or lick or bite open up.

eeb791fb-26f7-4531-bcc0-d20841e32486-0
00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:55.360
I couldn't obscure A groan as I tried to
deny that I was already open,

eeb791fb-26f7-4531-bcc0-d20841e32486-1
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.120
so open and willing and heavy with
longing.

960f2f8e-973d-4a1c-91aa-0be8528fcf4a-0
00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:07.520
Open mouth and open legs and open open
folds.

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00:39:08.520 --> 00:39:14.280
All open and ready to welcome her.

a0a93b97-39ce-4b1a-89d4-dd6bed1d4fb1-0
00:39:15.560 --> 00:39:23.840
I my lips wouldn't close do it, and I did.

11590aa2-be34-442a-94e4-cb92ef652a9d-0
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.626
I removed my fingers from my ***** let my
dress drop,

11590aa2-be34-442a-94e4-cb92ef652a9d-1
00:39:28.626 --> 00:39:30.800
and stepped away from the door.

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00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.360
It swung inward.

ad80ef23-308e-4334-a2db-52daf72a20a9-0
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.732
I didn't even see the marker in her hand
until it was in my mouth,

ad80ef23-308e-4334-a2db-52daf72a20a9-1
00:39:38.732 --> 00:39:43.452
inserted sideways between my teeth,
straining my lips wide and making me

ad80ef23-308e-4334-a2db-52daf72a20a9-2
00:39:43.452 --> 00:39:43.840
drool.

a16af314-f85f-4c72-9762-d5425713435a-0
00:39:45.160 --> 00:39:52.240
I closed my lips over it, mouthed it,
sucked to keep it in place.

bbef3684-1bb2-47a5-a1ce-9c0e1d159a90-0
00:39:54.120 --> 00:40:00.068
She pushed me back against the door,
sat on the toilet lid,

bbef3684-1bb2-47a5-a1ce-9c0e1d159a90-1
00:40:00.068 --> 00:40:06.612
ran her hands up my legs,
under my dress and pulled down my damp,

bbef3684-1bb2-47a5-a1ce-9c0e1d159a90-2
00:40:06.612 --> 00:40:08.000
ripe knickers.

3165717e-11b3-4a8e-8922-1961f45f0de4-0
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.280
They caught and tangled in their
stickiness.

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00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:14.920
Up.

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00:40:16.120 --> 00:40:20.900
I raised my leg,
she guided it over her shoulder onto the

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00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:21.560
cistern.

bba67b37-9ef0-4bf4-9883-980cb756c6c1-0
00:40:22.560 --> 00:40:31.160
She leant forward under the canopy of my
dress and I felt her breath on my damp

bba67b37-9ef0-4bf4-9883-980cb756c6c1-1
00:40:31.160 --> 00:40:38.149
surfaces, Warm, closer,
fingers pulling me apart, opening me up,

bba67b37-9ef0-4bf4-9883-980cb756c6c1-2
00:40:38.149 --> 00:40:46.320
finding the hottest, most sensitive,
most needy place in my desperate soul.

5fa3e162-e09a-4f8f-aaa5-67fb26fec658-0
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.280
My head rolled back and I whimpered.

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00:40:49.720 --> 00:40:55.887
I had never ate like this,
never felt such hot desperation, never,

5295f73d-3057-40ed-ae32-a8d0f611ac60-1
00:40:55.887 --> 00:40:56.440
never.

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00:40:57.240 --> 00:41:00.880
I slurped around the marker in my mouth
like it was flesh.

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00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.237
When her tongue finally touched me,
it was all I could do not to explode

1cfe9876-d032-4487-a6d0-3d5ba0cbbd95-1
00:41:07.237 --> 00:41:07.960
right then.

55864212-fb68-47c4-a1b7-1b5b9f6b9098-0
00:41:09.080 --> 00:41:15.444
I lost any fear of being overheard,
and my whimpers grew into moans as she

55864212-fb68-47c4-a1b7-1b5b9f6b9098-1
00:41:15.444 --> 00:41:18.160
explored me, wetness on wetness.

6f53060a-0ad4-4eb5-b9a8-1d9114e85f8e-0
00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:25.560
I felt her fingers push inside,
pull against my ridges, open me further.

20064b9d-1ccf-4e2a-98cc-b8cf2182ba2c-0
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:32.284
Her mouth found the sensitive spot to the
left that made me gasp and tortured it

20064b9d-1ccf-4e2a-98cc-b8cf2182ba2c-1
00:41:32.284 --> 00:41:36.720
until I cried and shudded and clenched
and forgot how to breathe.

f3f0d347-16bb-41f9-b919-68d13122243a-0
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.795
The door banged against its frame as my
standing leg lost its strength and I

f3f0d347-16bb-41f9-b919-68d13122243a-1
00:41:42.795 --> 00:41:44.040
grasped for the walls.

53892b72-0c59-4177-9f4b-8d1e847f52c1-0
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:46.320
****.

3b1e02e8-c8cb-4ccc-8e9d-7b1867fed511-0
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.791
As my climax faded,
she rose from her cave,

3b1e02e8-c8cb-4ccc-8e9d-7b1867fed511-1
00:41:55.791 --> 00:41:59.815
strands of hair plastered to the side of
her face,

3b1e02e8-c8cb-4ccc-8e9d-7b1867fed511-2
00:41:59.815 --> 00:42:03.760
and took the marker from my panting,
leaky mouth.

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00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:10.120
Her fingers teased where I pulse,
still sensitive and swollen.

e775bc10-5c41-4614-81cb-2c50618172b8-0
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:24.524
Then I felt it,
smooth and straight and sliding inside,

e775bc10-5c41-4614-81cb-2c50618172b8-1
00:42:24.524 --> 00:42:28.040
deeper, deeper.

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00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.347
She lifted my leg down from her shoulder
and pulled my knickers up,

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00:42:35.347 --> 00:42:37.040
holding the marker inside.

ff29e3a3-982e-4711-b2ac-14293579d9ea-0
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:47.807
I stood aside for her to straighten her
hair, and it moved sensuously inside me,

ff29e3a3-982e-4711-b2ac-14293579d9ea-1
00:42:47.807 --> 00:42:49.920
so smooth, so deep.

49c294cb-3c9e-4964-b2f9-b0f9bc165583-0
00:42:52.520 --> 00:42:54.840
Good girl, she said.

da6d71ed-91f6-42e5-a1c2-8afe856619ea-0
00:42:56.520 --> 00:43:00.640
Player 2 had entered the game.

ae4ed4ef-fee0-4d4b-90d9-bb8c575dfa8d-0
00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:34.180
So thank you Juicy Fruit for your story.

33c580bc-53d1-43d0-b905-996ead04ea9b-0
00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:35.260
Very juicy.

0307fb48-f0be-4f67-ba96-91ca2e515324-0
00:43:35.420 --> 00:43:36.820
And thank you, Amanda for your reading.

cc3e9aea-5b04-48b4-a9bf-badbb4d7e814-0
00:43:36.820 --> 00:43:38.700
Oh geez, super hot help.

b076b5f3-6fed-4493-b937-600a2b621d0a-0
00:43:39.220 --> 00:43:41.100
There's so much to love about this story.

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First of all, the premise.

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No, that is not to love.

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This is my life.

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I do that.

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That's my job.

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This is uncomfortable.

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You're the person up on this.

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I'm the person.

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I'm the.

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I'm the one with the highlighter.

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That's my day job.

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Yeah.

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00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.560
And so I feel like I don't know if I
consented to this.

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I mean, I did, but like, no one asked.

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I mean, look,
a lot of us spend time in meeting rooms.

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And I also have to say the word meeting
had an extra connotation for me in this

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story, like the meeting table.

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Meeting table.

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Oh, this is a meat free situation.

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This is a vegeorama, if you will.

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A vegeorama.

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00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:17.720
Yeah.

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00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.320
Well, this meat of various,
various kinds of meat.

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00:44:20.600 --> 00:44:20.920
But yeah.

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00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.640
So I think I think that situation is
quite relatable.

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00:44:23.640 --> 00:44:25.200
Like idol fantasies.

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00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:25.640
Yeah.

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00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:26.200
Oh, yeah.

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00:44:27.240 --> 00:44:27.840
Can you not?

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00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.520
I mean, now that you've read this story,
you're just ******* so defensive.

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00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:34.560
I'm really stressed.

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00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:36.605
I mean,
this this is coming from someone who met

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00:44:36.605 --> 00:44:37.440
her husband at work.

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00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:37.560
Yeah.

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00:44:37.560 --> 00:44:40.111
So yeah,
I may have had one or two idle fantasies

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00:44:40.111 --> 00:44:40.520
at work.

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Hmm.

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00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.172
To say the least,
I think it's probably a universal

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00:44:43.172 --> 00:44:43.640
experience.

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00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:44.600
Depends where you work.

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It depends where you work.

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Yeah.

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00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:46.400
So there's that.

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00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.040
And then there's, like,
the rushing off to the bathroom in 10

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minutes just because you're so.

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Oh.

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00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:53.160
Is that relatable?

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00:44:53.160 --> 00:44:56.160
Is it you're gone?

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00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:57.080
Overshare.

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00:44:57.080 --> 00:44:58.320
Listen, listen, overshare.

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Can you be supportive?

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00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:00.640
I'm so supportive.

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00:45:01.520 --> 00:45:04.320
How much action do you think the
workplace bathrooms get?

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Is it mostly solo action?

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It's I'd say probably a fair bit,
but in this case,

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like it escalated beyond that.

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And then Player 2 entered the entered a
few different things, if you will,

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and the whole marker thing as well.

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The whiteboard marker.

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Yeah.

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It was interesting.

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00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:23.680
Yeah.

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00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.080
It wasn't.

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00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:26.120
It's an extra sensory detail.

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I think that's the story.

f9eda3a8-6c8c-4ead-ab78-f11e5e9d521a-0
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.641
It was,
and we've talked about in previous

f9eda3a8-6c8c-4ead-ab78-f11e5e9d521a-1
00:45:29.641 --> 00:45:33.551
episodes about in the the regular not
quite right prize for flash fiction,

f9eda3a8-6c8c-4ead-ab78-f11e5e9d521a-2
00:45:33.551 --> 00:45:35.480
how we like that element of surprise.

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00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:37.909
The element of surprise can be a lot of
things,

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00:45:37.909 --> 00:45:41.249
but basically it equates to something
that kind of makes makes it stand out

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00:45:41.249 --> 00:45:42.040
from the ordinary.

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00:45:42.040 --> 00:45:45.704
Like a lot of stories are well written,
So what makes this one feel fresh and

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00:45:45.704 --> 00:45:46.080
special?

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00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.709
And in this case,
the whiteboard marker at the end was kind

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of that extra touch that did elevate it
because up until that point it was a

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00:45:53.957 --> 00:45:54.840
spicy encounter.

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00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.240
And then it's like a little bit of an
extra level up.

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00:45:57.240 --> 00:45:59.880
So I think that was a good touch,
so to speak.

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00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:01.480
Yeah, it was a nice little touch.

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00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:02.920
Yeah.

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00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.640
So super hot story, super memorable.

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00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:08.520
And thank you for sharing that with us.

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00:46:08.560 --> 00:46:10.760
Juicy Fruit if that is your real name.

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00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.897
But we won't be reading the winning story
for this round or any of our other

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00:46:16.897 --> 00:46:18.920
category rounds during these episodes.

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00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:23.866
We'll be saving them all up for the final
episode where we will reveal all of the

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00:46:23.866 --> 00:46:27.908
category winners at once,
as well as the overall winner of the Not

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00:46:27.908 --> 00:46:30.080
Quite Right prize for Flesh Fiction.

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00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:33.080
So you just have to hang on a little bit
longer.

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00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:37.791
But if you can't wait,
feel free to take a little trip to the

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00:46:37.791 --> 00:46:38.400
bathroom.

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00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:40.880
You never know what might happen.

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00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:46.840
We'll be back very soon with the next
episode, but until then, right on.

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00:46:47.240 --> 00:46:49.720
Or should that be right in?

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00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:55.480
Thank you for listening to Not Quite
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00:47:13.720 --> 00:47:15.320
Something doesn't seem quite right.

9c9d5434-4b48-4f01-bc1a-d976f80d4c36-0
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.640
I'm getting really stressed reading these
stories.

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00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:24.040
I'm like,
this is going to be bitten clean off.

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00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:27.600
And I know that's alarming.

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00:47:27.600 --> 00:47:28.040
I know.

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00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.230
Look,
is there anything I can do to make you

9974583d-a3e6-4658-8d11-2d3b3a907cb0-1
00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:30.800
feel stressed?

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00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:33.960
No, I don't mean like that.

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00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:34.480
I promise.

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00:47:34.720 --> 00:47:35.160
I promise.

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00:47:35.160 --> 00:47:35.640
I didn't, really.

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00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.080
I'm just saying, like, can I?

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00:47:37.080 --> 00:47:38.240
Like, is is it?

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00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:38.600
Am I?

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00:47:38.720 --> 00:47:38.960
Yeah.

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00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:39.240
No.

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00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.000
Listen, just stop anyway.

bdd1e8a2-b7e1-4820-a72c-dc3bcdd0b454-0
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:42.880
Relieve the pressure.

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00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:48.440
Oh,
it's getting wildly inappropriate in here.

5183e237-8688-460d-8f1b-7de35a2c2f44-0
00:47:48.560 --> 00:47:49.880
Can you read a story, please?

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00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:51.800
So awkward.