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Something doesn't seem quite right.

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Welcome to Not quite Right.

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My name's Ed and I'm Amanda.

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We are here at Words on the Waves 2026,
and we spoke to Rosalie Ham.

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So Rosalie's probably best known for her
debut novel The Dressmaker,

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which was turned into a film with Kate
Winslet.

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But Rosalie was here to promote her new
book which carries the very intriguing

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title Look after Your feet.

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Bit of a memoir, look at ageing,
ageing gracefully, I suppose,

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the good and the bad,
the good and the bad and a little insight

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into maybe what we have to look forward
to.

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So here's our chat with Rosalie Ham.

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We are here at Words on the Waves with
author Rosalie Ham.

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Very nice to meet you, Rosalie,
you too good to be here.

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So tell us about what brings you here to
Words on the Waves.

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An invitation which I'm very grateful for.

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It's just to publicise basically my
latest book,

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which is called Look After Your Feet.

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But I was very keen to come because I've
never been up this way before.

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Really.

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Whereabouts are you from?

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I'm from Melbourne, OK.

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And I didn't even know where the Central
Coast was.

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And so when I the invitation arrived, yes,
of course I'll be in that.

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So I'm very happy to be here.

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It's very lovely.

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And I saw a little keep on Facebook or
one of those things,

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and the festival looked very vibrant and
very jumpy a couple of days ago.

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So I think it's all going very well.

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Well, yeah.

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You've come on with some good weather,
definitely this weekend.

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It hasn't been too great lately.

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So tell us about your your new book,
Look After Your Feet.

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Is it a memoir?

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It is.

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It's AI.

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Don't know what genre you'd put it in,
but it's a memoir.

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But it also is my observations and my
take on the procedure of life.

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And it's basically about how you
accumulate all this information as you

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travel through life and as you've
accumulated,

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you try to tell people nobody's
interested because they're just trying to

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get their kids to school and get over the
hump in the week and all that sort of

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stuff.

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And I've worked out that that's just the
way it is and that's the way it's always

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going to be.

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But also there was a lot of information
out there about ageing and how many of us

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older people there are and are going to
be.

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And it was all a bit grim.

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And I don't think it's grim.

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I think it's a bit of a hoot actually.

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It's quite who's saying that that's a
problem.

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The just the general information is
there's statistics on, yeah,

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dementia and ageing.

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And if you listen to the health report on
Radio National,

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you it's all sounds a bit grim.

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And the,
the books on the wisdom of ageing and how

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to cope with it.

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But you don't have to.

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It's just the way it is, it's meant to be.

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So you just adjust to it.

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And I found that my family adjusted with
me whether they liked it or not,

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whether they like it or not.

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But they say things like they talk about
you in,

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in the third person as if you're not
there.

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And they'll say,
will you sit there and you sit there

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because grandma's going to sit in the
front.

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And I go Ripper.

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I love sitting in the front, you know,
so there's, you know,

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it's stuff like that.

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And so I've flipped the whole negative
and decided to go joyously forth.

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Do you think that that stems from your
own personality or has the process of

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writing the book also cemented that
feeling for you And that perspective?

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It comes from my personality,
but I was also,

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I worked in aged care for 20 plus years
and that kept me alive on a few

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continents and while I was trying to be a
writer.

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And so you understand humanity a lot more.

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You know,
I just kind of think that people should

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spend 6 months in a nursing home working
as compulsory education because it makes

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you more empathetic and more tolerant,
more patient and more understanding of

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the process.

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And also elderly people have a very good
attitude about the whole thing.

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So when you were working in aged care,
did you listen to anything anyone told

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you who,
who was living in the facility or did you

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also ignore their advice and have to
learn on your own?

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Look, I,
I ignored their advice in my early 20s,

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but the longer I stayed,
the more I came to understand because

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that's what life does.

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And I really started to appreciate the
life that they've had because some people

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had just had a very normal, ordinary life.

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If you call raising children, you know,
normal and ordinary, I don't think it is.

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And others had done amazing things
extraordinary.

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So you,
I kind of learned the value of the

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individual and what a life meant.

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And it's entirely personal.

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It's all got to do with you and how
you've conducted your life.

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And so you may as well do it happily.

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I mean,
your book's called Look After Your Feet.

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What is it about feet in particular that
you wanted to draw people's attention to?

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And that's just a big metaphor for just
look after yourself.

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And the thing about your feet is that
they transport you,

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take you wherever you want to go.

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And when you sit up in the morning and
swing your legs over the bed and put them

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down,
and once your blood's adjusted in your

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body and you stand up,
you stand on your feet,

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you kind of know what sort of day you're
going to have.

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And then you really find out on the
journey to the en suite.

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And so it all kind of starts from there.

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And so I,
it was just something I said one day and,

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and the publisher said that's a good
title for the book.

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It's very intriguing.

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So instead of getting out on the wrong
side of the bed,

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you just get out on the wrong set of feet
sometimes.

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And sometimes the idea,
because they get worn out,

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they've been walking,
we've been walking around on them for a

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long time.

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And often people don't really look after
their feet.

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And if you can't walk from the
international terminal to the domestic

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terminal and carry 7 kilos of luggage,
then life's not worth living as far as

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I'm concerned.

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So.

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So you're talking about advice that
people give and don't listen to,

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Is that your core piece of advice is to
look after yourself?

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Yeah, all you do.

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And if you do,
you can kind of adjust as to what's

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coming.

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And if you engage your body in your mind
and Sally forth happily,

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happy things will happen.

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That's my philosophy anyway.

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So how does that work from a writing
perspective?

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Like you're writing practise?

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Are you one of those people who writes
every day?

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Yeah, I am.

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Sometimes I only write 4 words,
but other times I won't.

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But I've learned that it's best to get up
in the morning, get a cup of tea,

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and go and sit down and write.

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And I write and until I don't feel guilty
anymore.

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And then I write until I know what's
going to happen next.

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I don't leave till I know what's going to
happen next and then I can get on with my

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day.

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But if you're a good girl and do the hard
work,

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then then you get a lovely afternoon.

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We've spoken to a lot of writers as well
at this event who have challenged

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themselves to go in different directions
with each book,

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and it sounds like you've moved into a
different direction with a memoir.

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Are you still finding motivation to work
on novels as well?

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I am.

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While I've been doing my little book tour,
people have been asking me about my other

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novels and it's made me miss, you know,
creating a scene and making a metaphor or

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a similarly or painting an horizon with
words and it's made me miss the drama.

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It was lovely to write non fiction.

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I really enjoyed it.

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I'll probably go back and write something
else,

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but I'm longing now to go back and create
a whole world for somebody else.

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So my understanding is that the book
you're best known for, The Dressmaker,

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was your debut novel.

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Is that correct?

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It was.

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I wrote that to pass a course.

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Oh, well, OK.

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Yeah, tick.

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I did pass.

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So that experience of it being turned
into a film and all of that must have

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been like a real whirlwind for you as
well.

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Were you involved much in that or was it
very much the rights are sold and you

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step back?

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It was a bit of both.

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OK.

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The the person who made the film was a
childhood friend, Sue Maslin,

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who came from Geraldry, as did I.

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And it took 15 years.

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It didn't come out for 15 years after a
publication in 2000.

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And it took that long for her to raise
the money.

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And there was a few producers,
but she was the one that came along and

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got $20 million and Kate Winslet on board.

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And she did that all because I said she
could.

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And I said,
you can only do that if all my friends

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and family can be extras.

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She said sure.

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So in that regard,
we were all pretty much involved.

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But we were also not involved because
there's a hierarchy, Yeah, in filmmaking.

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And us extras were down at the bottom of
that hierarchy, having a lovely time,

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I have to say.

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Did you do the screen writing for that
one or was?

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No, I know nothing about screen writing.

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And you're happy to keep it that way?

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Yeah, I am actually.

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Yeah.

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Because, you know, I found myself,
I gave it a couple of goes for a couple

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of producers,
but I found myself describing too much.

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Like there's a quite an art to what's
implied in the description and the

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miniscule amount of dialogue that has to
be conveyed.

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That's the actors do it all with their
body and their mind and the set and the

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weather and all that kind of stuff.

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Whereas I have to write all that and you
miss it to you if it's,

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if you're not able to do it, well,
then I think that they're not going to

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know what to do.

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But of course they do.

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They're actors, you know,
And I learned that just by watching them

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on set and understood that best left
writing fiction.

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Always good to know that about yourself.

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Yeah.

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So as you think about your next book that
you're working on,

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is there any time period or any setting
that is drawing you in?

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I tend to.

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Something comes out of me every five
years or so.

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I mean, you know,
goes to the publisher every five years or

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so.

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And that's.

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I'm happy with that.

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Yeah, I am.

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And the next book, I hope,
will be a fictionalised interpretation of

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a friendship over from the age of 9 clear
through to 70.

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So that's what I've got in my mind.

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And that's what I intend to start
tomorrow morning, Monday at 9:00.

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OK.

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So is this a contemporary novel then or?

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Yeah, it will be.

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It'll.

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It'll probably start in the 50s.

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This is all pure speculations.

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It may never happen.

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So don't wait for it.

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And it'll come.

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Yeah.

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It'll go all the way through to now.

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It's very refreshing actually,
to hear you say it takes you five years,

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you know,
between because I think there's a lot of

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pressure or certainly a lot of authors we
speak to feel pressure to just be

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00:11:02.285 --> 00:11:03.400
churning out this work.

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And and I feel like that would be very
draining and very difficult to maintain.

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I mean, some some authors can do it,
but for others,

951e7e1f-5d5d-4bb7-93b1-caf78f0b4e26-1
00:11:10.217 --> 00:11:12.480
like you need to fill that bucket again,
right?

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00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:16.778
And you do get passionate about a new
idea enough to see it through all the way

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00:11:16.778 --> 00:11:17.960
to complete this work.

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00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:19.920
Agree completely.

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Well,
thank you so much for speaking with us,

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Rosalie.

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That's a lovely way to start the day.

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And best of luck on your panel.

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Thank you very much.

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